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haoleboy
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:50 am |
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Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:56 am Posts: 766 Location: Honokaa
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Kona Dave wrote: haoleboy wrote: Then that would suck! I want the option of a hot shower at night. You are probably getting some benefit from using it. Just not to the fullest possible savings. Don't you want to go to bed stinky?  Not always. 
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Babette
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:03 am |
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Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:10 pm Posts: 294 Location: Discovery Harbour
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Skip, we are two people, 1700 square foot house. We are home all day, using a desktop computer and a laptop. Our stove and clothes dryer are on propane. From March 2011 to March 2012, the average KWH monthly was 523. No, the install is not done yet. It takes a l-o-n-g time (we're on Hawaiian time here).
I can't believe that HELCO can't just look in their files to get that information for you. What a bunch of idiots!
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big_island_bound
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:18 am |
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Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:14 pm Posts: 132 Location: Pensacola, FL
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Babette wrote: Skip, we are two people, 1700 square foot house. We are home all day, using a desktop computer and a laptop. Our stove and clothes dryer are on propane. From March 2011 to March 2012, the average KWH monthly was 523. No, the install is not done yet. It takes a l-o-n-g time (we're on Hawaiian time here).
I can't believe that HELCO can't just look in their files to get that information for you. What a bunch of idiots! Ya, the people over at HELCo are. We will be a family of 5, 1700 sqft, have solar water heater and electric everything else, so I am willing to bet my bill will be at least double what your's was/is. I am wondering if the panels are a standard size or they have different sizes. I guess a larger panel size would generate more power, just a guess...
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Kona Dave
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:36 am |
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Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:30 pm Posts: 3608 Location: Kapolei
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big_island_bound wrote: Babette wrote: Skip, we are two people, 1700 square foot house. We are home all day, using a desktop computer and a laptop. Our stove and clothes dryer are on propane. From March 2011 to March 2012, the average KWH monthly was 523. No, the install is not done yet. It takes a l-o-n-g time (we're on Hawaiian time here).
I can't believe that HELCO can't just look in their files to get that information for you. What a bunch of idiots! Ya, the people over at HELCo are. We will be a family of 5, 1700 sqft, have solar water heater and electric everything else, so I am willing to bet my bill will be at least double what your's was/is. I am wondering if the panels are a standard size or they have different sizes. I guess a larger panel size would generate more power, just a guess... If I remember correctly when I was looking into solar I found that the panels from different manufacturers were all about the same size within an inch or two.
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marybethw
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:16 am |
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Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:24 pm Posts: 45 Location: Kailua-Kona
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To add to Dave's savings ideas Another thing we do is wash our clothes in cold water. I have found clothes really do get just as clean as most of today's detergents are designed for cold water. It won't matter when you wash your clothes - only when you dry them if you use an electric dryer. (I say this because our condo association does not allow hanging wash to be visible and the complex is not set up for gas  so we have an electric dryer). Of course if you can omit the electric dryer it would even be better...
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big_island_bound
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:15 am |
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Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:14 pm Posts: 132 Location: Pensacola, FL
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Babette wrote: Skip, we are two people, 1700 square foot house. We are home all day, using a desktop computer and a laptop. Our stove and clothes dryer are on propane. From March 2011 to March 2012, the average KWH monthly was 523. No, the install is not done yet. It takes a l-o-n-g time (we're on Hawaiian time here).
I can't believe that HELCO can't just look in their files to get that information for you. What a bunch of idiots! How is the solar panel install going?
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Babette
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:38 am |
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Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:10 pm Posts: 294 Location: Discovery Harbour
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Arrrgh. The solar people told us on May 31 that they had submitted for permits "three weeks ago". Still no permits seven weeks later. I think both the solar people and the building department are totally overwhelmed. I've heard that the building department changed their systems (in addition to adopting new codes), so everything is moving s-l-o-w-l-y. That's even slower than normal Hawaii time  . BTW, I tried calling the building department to get an idea on when we should be getting our permit -- got an answering machine, left a message, no-one ever called back.
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Babette
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:51 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:10 pm Posts: 294 Location: Discovery Harbour
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The solar company told us that they applied for permits in early May. So far all they can find out is that the building department can't find the permit. The solar company has receipts proving the submittal date and their permit expediter (do they even have such a thing in HI) is trying to get them to issue the permit. That was what they told us last week.
Apparently between adopting a new code and getting a new computer system, the building department can't seem to get permits issued. If you call for status, they don't answer the phones and they don't return calls. And if you bug them too much trying to get answers, they get pissed off and then you go back to the bottom of the pile.
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John S. Rabi
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:20 pm |
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Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:53 am Posts: 3380 Location: Citizen of The World!
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Babette wrote: The solar company told us that they applied for permits in early May. So far all they can find out is that the building department can't find the permit. The solar company has receipts proving the submittal date and their permit expediter (do they even have such a thing in HI) is trying to get them to issue the permit. That was what they told us last week. Apparently between adopting a new code and getting a new computer system, the building department can't seem to get permits issued. If you call for status, they don't answer the phones and they don't return calls. And if you bug them too much trying to get answers, they get pissed off and then you go back to the bottom of the pile. Welcome to Hawaii! 
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Babette
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:03 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:10 pm Posts: 294 Location: Discovery Harbour
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When is a duck not a duck? When it's a "Strategic alignment of the review stream, not a backlog".  Sheesh! How about hiring a few more people to help alleviate the problem?
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Kona Dave
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:09 pm |
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Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:30 pm Posts: 3608 Location: Kapolei
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Babette wrote: When is a duck not a duck? When it's a "Strategic alignment of the review stream, not a backlog".  Sheesh! How about hiring a few more people to help alleviate the problem? Where are they going to get the money from? They are so busy being corrupt and stealing from the government they are trying to figure out how to raise our taxes so they can take more and hire one person so they can say "Hey we hired more people". Sorry for the sarcasm. The problem is it is too close to reality..... 
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John S. Rabi
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Post subject: Re: Solar Electricity  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:38 pm |
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Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:53 am Posts: 3380 Location: Citizen of The World!
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Babette wrote: When is a duck not a duck? When it's a "Strategic alignment of the review stream, not a backlog".  Sheesh! How about hiring a few more people to help alleviate the problem? Hiring more people?! Don't we already have an over-stuffed county work force? How about making them work like they would have to work in a private enterprise job! 
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